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October 28, 2009

How to Occupy a Conquered Country

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by Sun Tzu, Julius Caesar, Alexander the Great, and the Incan Empire

Any close examination of recent American or European Wars will reveal two essential types of war: The first kind is best represented by WWI and WWII (or the earlier Napoleonic Wars also come to mind), where European/Western nations were expanding and were checked by their neighbors, only to have power and local control restored at the conclusion of the conflict. Though often disasterously bloody, these wars are typically characterized as following Geneva Conventions. Also, and most importantly, these wars end.

In the second category are wars like Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Somalia. These are wars waged by western nations against non-western nations in order to promote security and democracy. You probably see where this is going, but western nations typically LOSE these wars, they don’t have clear endings, don’t follow the rules of engagement, and are just generally a mess.

Why the discrepancy? The first reason is that the major wars, like WWII, were military campaigns more than culture wars. Both sides knew why they were fighting, and at the conclusion of the war the civilians on the losing side didn’t harbor enough distrust to engage in insurgency. In fact, many studies about European wars have shown that the lives of the average civilians changes very little from regime to regime as the result of wars (though the glaring exception to this rule would be World War II).

So what about the other kind of wars? Too often, military engagement with drastically different cultures results in ideologically fueled wars. Civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, and Somalia had been taught, for many years, to distrust foreign powers, especially the United States. In the case of Iraq and Afghanistan, quick military victories were quickly replaced by failure to significantly improve the lives of citizens in those countires. The result was that America didn’t fulfill promises made, and so people began to lose trust in the West.

So how do you win such a war? Our wars of nation building are not that significantly different from wars of conquering and domination. Julius Caesar, Alexander, and the Inca all shared similar tactics, and were quite successful at winning such wars and turning the conquered territory into first rate nations in less than a life time. How did they do it?

A basic tenant of military strategy, from Rome to Sun Tzu’s China, is that if you are not prepared to do whatever is necesarry, then you should not fight. Christianity’s own Just War Theory argues that if you can’t justify the war then it should not be fought. In order to win an ideological war (like we are fighting against the Taliban) in order to truly win we must be willing to kill everyone who disagrees with our ideology. I don’t think this is possible, or wise, so I don’t think we should be fighting.

Also, rarely would a nation like Rome or the Inca allow a conquered nation to maintain its cultural identity without first putting the conqueror’s culture at the top of the heirarchy. Roman and Incan practice, when encountering a culture with its own set of gods, was to subjegate those gods to the conquerors gods in the heirarchy, thus establishing the conquering culture as dominant. We don’t want to do that either.

So what Obama is trying to do is really a relatively new concept. Without colonisation or slavery, European and Western powers have not accomplished the task set before America in Afghanistan and Iraq. Call me crazy, but it’s unlikely that Obama will be able to accomplish what we have never seen in nearly 8,000 years or recorded history.

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  • KB from India

    When two people disagree & one wants to impose his will on the other because of the disagreement, wars happen. If both agree to disagree & go on about their lives, acknowledging the fact that they disagree over some issues, there would not be any war.In the case of USA vs Vietnam/Iraq/Af/etc, does Uncle Sam "disagree" with whatever the other nations are doing? If yes, then is not Uncle Sam educated & erudite enough to smile, acknowledge the disagreement & then live his life peacefully a la say Bhutan or Mongolia or Canada or so many other nations on planet earth, huh?Apparently, either Uncle Sam is NOT erudite enough or Uncle Sam really wants war for money, oil, sustainment of his ego, delusions of grandeur etc. The course of events suggests that despite having perhaps the most number of Nobel Prize winners, Uncle Sam has really not learned, or from, history. Either which way, the net result is :USA glaring at defeat in Af-Ir. Sigh.Even if we assume that USA wins the war, replaces the culture of the conquered nations….then what? Lets assume the whole earth is now full of only americans. Now, what? What would USA have gained? Will americans then live peacefully everafter? Will they not fight amongst themselves on some pretext or the other? Will it not again come down to the basic fact : imposition of will by one set of americans on the other set by violence. Bingo, war again.Whether conquerer or vanquished, Incas, Romans, Alexanders, Napoleans….. & those they fought….all are dead. Does it really matter to THEM, NOW? Therefore, to prevent coming that vicious full circle, let go. Let go of delusions. Let go ego. Let go of assumptions. Let go….Smile. Make friends. Make love. Dont make war. There never was ever a good war, or a bad peace.Dont heed me if you will. But heed Nietschze, who said thus : Beware those who fight monsters, lest they themselves become one.

  • KB from India

    When two people disagree & one wants to impose his will on the other because of the disagreement, wars happen. If both agree to disagree & go on about their lives, acknowledging the fact that they disagree over some issues, there would not be any war.

    In the case of USA vs Vietnam/Iraq/Af/etc, does Uncle Sam "disagree" with whatever the other nations are doing? If yes, then is not Uncle Sam educated & erudite enough to smile, acknowledge the disagreement & then live his life peacefully a la say Bhutan or Mongolia or Canada or so many other nations on planet earth, huh?

    Apparently, either Uncle Sam is NOT erudite enough or Uncle Sam really wants war for money, oil, sustainment of his ego, delusions of grandeur etc. The course of events suggests that despite having perhaps the most number of Nobel Prize winners, Uncle Sam has really not learned, or from, history. Either which way, the net result is :USA glaring at defeat in Af-Ir. Sigh.

    Even if we assume that USA wins the war, replaces the culture of the conquered nations….then what? Lets assume the whole earth is now full of only americans. Now, what? What would USA have gained? Will americans then live peacefully everafter? Will they not fight amongst themselves on some pretext or the other? Will it not again come down to the basic fact : imposition of will by one set of americans on the other set by violence. Bingo, war again.

    Whether conquerer or vanquished, Incas, Romans, Alexanders, Napoleans….. & those they fought….all are dead. Does it really matter to THEM, NOW?

    Therefore, to prevent coming that vicious full circle, let go. Let go of delusions. Let go ego. Let go of assumptions. Let go….

    Smile. Make friends. Make love. Dont make war. There never was ever a good war, or a bad peace.

    Dont heed me if you will. But heed Nietschze, who said thus : Beware those who fight monsters, lest they themselves become one.

  • The Hype

    Well said, KB. And that's my point. Obviously the total subjugation of another culture is not going to work. The problem is that the Taliban mentality (stoning perceived sinners, persecution and virtual enslavement of women, severe punishment for ideological or religious dissenters) flies in the face of most of what America believes (and it should). But there are only two ways to win an ideological war; genocide, and patience. We need the later.If this is an ideological war, then we have no option but to stop fighting. War breeds warriors, and aren't there enough militant religious fundamentalists in the world already?Maybe we're not there yet. Maybe there is still hope. Maybe this is a war about drugs, about lack of resources or opportunity, about collateral casualties or failed governments or bad soil. Maybe there is still progress to be made. I think that ship has sailed, and we are left with a war against ideas.We need to find other ways of changing the world, of dialogging with the world, without soldiers, bombs, and drones. Gandi taught me more about India that Bin Laden taught me about Islam. KB is dead on. War is not the answer.

  • The Hype

    Well said, KB. And that's my point. Obviously the total subjugation of another culture is not going to work. The problem is that the Taliban mentality (stoning perceived sinners, persecution and virtual enslavement of women, severe punishment for ideological or religious dissenters) flies in the face of most of what America believes (and it should). But there are only two ways to win an ideological war; genocide, and patience. We need the later.

    If this is an ideological war, then we have no option but to stop fighting. War breeds warriors, and aren't there enough militant religious fundamentalists in the world already?

    Maybe we're not there yet. Maybe there is still hope. Maybe this is a war about drugs, about lack of resources or opportunity, about collateral casualties or failed governments or bad soil. Maybe there is still progress to be made. I think that ship has sailed, and we are left with a war against ideas.

    We need to find other ways of changing the world, of dialogging with the world, without soldiers, bombs, and drones. Gandi taught me more about India that Bin Laden taught me about Islam. KB is dead on. War is not the answer.

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